VIAGRA TESTIMONIALS

Here is a collection first-person reports about Viagra, assembled from various sources.
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Confidence is Back

I recently entered a new relationship after having ended a long term one shortly before. I found, much to my annoyance and frustration, that when it came to being intimate with my new partner, I was having problems maintaining a full erection or one at all. I am sure it was purely a psychological problem as it had never been an issue in my previous relationship. 

After the first time it happened, I found myself getting more and more worked up about it, and putting more and more pressure on myself, my confidence was totally shot. I did try herbal alternatives (which I found out about on the net), and although they made a slight difference to my general energy levels, didn't perform when it came to improving my erections. Viagra worked excellently the very first time I took half a 50mg pill. My confidence is back, and I am now having great sex without having to take it at all. It was definitely worth the price.

No Failure With Viagra

I could not achieve a satisfactory erection for about 3 years.  It was very depressing.  Then I asked my doctor if he would give me a prescription for Viagra.  He said I should try the 25 mg dose.  With Viagra, my wife of 54 years and I have not failed even once in the last two years to have a mutually satisfying sexual experience, similar in intensity to a half century ago!  We do it regularly every 3 to 5 days.  I am retired military and thank the Department of Defense for making Viagra available to us as a prescription benefit. 

Marathon Sessions

I was having reservations about my "abilities" because of soft or non-existent erections. A lady friend offered me 1/2 of a 100 mg tablet and it was amazing. We went from about 10:30 PM until 3:30 AM with a rock hard unit. It appeared to be a little desensitized, but it felt great and my lady was exhausted when I finally quit. Things still work naturally, but for marathon sessions, the pill is the bomb..

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Like Sucking on a Steel Rod

UNBELIEVABLE!!!!! That is the only way to describe it. My girlfriend talked me into seeing a urologist, and I am glad I did. I have always had a hard time getting hard, and staying hard. No more though. I take 50mg. about an hour before we do anything, and then she'd better hang on for a hell of a ride. I am able to go 3 times in one hour now sometimes. She can't get over how hard I get. 

She loves to give head, and says it is like sucking on a steel rod, covered in skin. I can also go for 20 min.,or more before cumming, and when I do, she can't handle the volume.  I told her I wanted to see how many times we could fuck in 10 hrs. one night.  We went 11 times! I couldn't do anything for 2 days because my cock was so sore, but it was worth it. This stuff works, and the people who will kid you about it, are totally ignorant to how great this stuff really is. I am 51, and do wear out my 39 yr. old girlfriend. Can they say that?

After Prostate Cancer: 62 and Still Going Strong

My lady has only had sex with one other man, and not even that much with him. I had prostate cancer and Viagra works great for us.  I explained about the help I need from her, and she has become my sex queen.  She understands how Viagra works. Our sex is out of this world .Vaginal, oral, and everything we can think of... Because I can't ejaculate, and she can't get pregnant, life is just great. She enjoys giving me oral and not worrying about swallowing and we never need protection.  Wow.

Man of Steel

Steel.  That's all I can say when it comes to explaining the results in taking Viagra.  I've never heard my wife scream with joy like she did the other night.  The only time my penis gets that hard is during oral.  We also performed anal entry for the first time with success!  I usually end up getting to soft to penetrate.  Not this time!  I bang her so hard we re-arranged the bedroom set.  I read in a earlier posting about the force of ejaculation....it's true!  I came  inside, outside, and all over my wife.  You have to give it a rest though.....I woke up the next morning with such a hard on that it hurt.  Really, it did hurt.  My wife decided to give me a blowjob which she did in a very gentle way..........after about 30 minutes of soft sucking, and licking I exploded again.  I didn't think I would cum that much, but my wife told me that she could not swallow fast enough to keep it from dripping down side of her mouth.  This is a miracle pill...but again...take it easy. Too much hurts like hell.

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Feels Bigger

Wow!!!!  Took Viagra for the first time two weeks ago, and became a human horsy ride for my wife.  She rode me for almost an hour and a half.  I wanted it to last longer, but my cock was throbbing, and I could not hold off.  Talk about rock hard.  My wife could not believe how big I felt inside of her.  I don't think Viagra makes your cock grow bigger, but just makes you harder than ever before.  We came at the same time, and boy did I cum.  What force!  What makes this whole experience ever better is that I only used half of a 50 mg pill. 

Amazing Oral

I don't know about anyone else's experience, but I took Viagra for the first time last week, and I was able to perform at least 3 times in one night.  I took it again last night, and my girlfriend went down on me, and never came back up.  She could not believe that I was able to hold out for an hour without cumming. My penis was so hard that it felt like a statue.   She loved it!!!  And WOW...when I did cum, it must've lasted several seconds.  Which is a long time when it comes to ejaculating.  My girlfriend wants to try it again tonight....but all she wants to do is suck me. But I have no objections to that.

Works Wonders

I was having erection problems for almost two years.  I was then diagnosed with MS.  My doctor prescribed 50 mg of Viagra, and it has worked wonders.  The first time I took it I did not tell my wife.  She was giving me a blowjob for over an hour. Thankfully, she loves doing this.  When I finally did come, I exploded with such a force that she almost choked.  I've since told her that I'm taking Viagra, and she makes sure that I have taken my pill before every act of making love.  That same night, we made love two times, and she blew me once again.  Viagra is the best!

Makes It Last

I take high blood pressure medicine that makes my hard-ons not last very long. My doctor prescribed 50 mg Viagra. Wow. Instant hard on that lasts for a long time. Sex was wonderful and lasted for long period of time. When I finished, loads of cum. Erections occur during the day and I masturbate to relieve it. I do experience flushing of the face and a little dizziness. Otherwise no problems. Only wish it cost less. I take 50 mg about three times a week.

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Thirty Minutes Before

I've found I need to take it at least 30 minutes before sex. Not only is my erection harder, but the quantity of my orgasm and the force of it is greatly increased by Viagra.  I have experienced huge multiple eruptions during climax.  My partners always remark on that.  I have not found that my recovery time is as benefited as others seem to enjoy.  I take the 50 mg dose.

Special Occasions

I took Viagra for the first time about 6 months ago. The results were great! The first time I took it, my wife and I had already made love that afternoon. Viagra worked well in producing another HARD erection for us that night. The next time I tried it was an hour before bedtime. This produced even greater results. I have found that I don't need to take it regularly now - only for those "special" occasions like motels rooms. etc when we want to do it all night. "Recovery time" is reduced dramatically! It truly is amazing!

Once a Week

I had been worried about loss of erection during sex over past year. Finally talked to family Doc -checked out OK for blood pressure etc-we decided to give Viagra a go. Stunned by the first time and subsequent results. A hard and lasting erection -plenty of orgasms for my lady-and surprisingly similar results next few days WITHOUT another tablet. 'Topping up' about once a week. Some nausea after, but a small inconvenience for the wonderful benefits.

Hardest Ever 

My husband is diabetic and has been having a hard time obtaining and keeping an erection.  He tried Viagra today for the first time. We have been married 20 years and this was the hardest I've ever felt him inside of me. Thanks to the makers of Viagra, just wish the medication was covered under our insurance.

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Power Shot

I have been using Viagra for a month now. I have been totally happy. My erections are fantastic. I had intercourse three times in a row. On the side I was also able to masturbate with so much energy. I don't know if this is supposed to happen, but I ejaculated very far. I haven't shot it that far with that much semen since I was in my early teens. Thank you!

Don't Tell the Woman

Truly a miracle drug! Definitely works! Side effects aren't that bad for me. I get a headache but it is worth it.50 mg on empty stomach seems to work best. I don't know if my problems are physical or psychological [probably both] but Viagra cures it. Cumming is a little bit harder to do though.  Round one is ok, round two takes a little tougher, and round three is difficult but possible. I can get to round four sometimes and still get hard for round 5 and that's a good session. It has to be with some one who turns me on though; being a playboy at 43 ain't easy! Lots of leftovers out here lol but I like the older babes. The only other down side to Viagra is I am becoming rather psychologically dependent on it .The other advice I have is don't tell women you are taking it. all the ones I have told have reacted to it negatively. What the fuck do they want? I mean i don't see why they care. Your wife or steady girlfriend might be ok with it but for casual sex or booty call don't tell 'em. Trust me. - Mike

Premature Ejaculation & Viagra 

For me, Viagra has made me last a lot longer. Before Viagra, I really found myself concentrating a lot on getting and keeping my erection. I was so focused on the sensations I was feeling that I think, as a defense mechanism my body was subconsciously racing to an orgasm just in case my erection would slip away prematurely. Since I have been taking Viagra however, I find that I no longer have the anxiety over losing my erection at any moment and the urgency is not the focus and I can once again relax and concentrate on my partner's pleasure. I had almost forgot how wonderful it is to look into my wife's eyes while she orgasms and have that be the added stimulus that brings on mine. Viagra has had this two-fold benefit for me and is truly a "Wonder Drug of the 90s."

Didn't feel any side effects 

Took 50 mg. around 9:15. Waited about an hour. Didn't feel anything physically. Self stimulation was easy. Got very hard pretty fast. Stayed hard a few minutes. Backed off of the stimulation. Waited about 20 minutes. Self stimulation worked again pretty quick. This time I masturbated to climax. Noticed that my erection didn't go down quickly as in the past. About 45 minutes later I still felt aroused. Self stimulation worked again. Still felt somewhat aroused in the morning. Didn't feel any side effects. - Jack

Face became very flushed and hot

I am 37 years old, suffer from high blood pressure and a high cholesterol count (277). For the last 3 years my erections have been very varied from no erection to semi-erect to hard but never fully erect.

I took one 50 mg tablet yesterday. After about 15 minutes my face became very flushed and hot, a little uncomfortable but very bearable. After about 40 minutes I did not really feel I was thinking about sex ahead of the act, but I became erect in my underwear and had the best erection I can remember in many years. I had very good sex and overall am very pleased with the outcome. After effects were minimal, just the continued flushed feeling for about 5 hours after sex, then I felt as normal. The only significant thing was this morning I awoke with an equally powerful erection. It did subside after about 15 minutes it did somewhat subside, but I did masturbate and achieve another fine orgasm, although it went semi erect before the orgasm.

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The results rock, though produced rapid heartbeat

I'm a 36 year old white male in good health-height and weight proportionate, non-smoker & non-drinker, work out three times a week, father of two children, and a Viagra user. What led me to Viagra was my inability to get much more than a semi-hard-on in the sack. Sex became stressful due to my inability perform at the level which mentally I expected. Did the full works with the urologist, even a Doppler test and nothing was found to be "Wrong." So with the boards council got my RX for a dozen 100mg tabs, a four dollar pill splitter, a quart of grapefruit juice and decided to see what would happen. The results rock-Instead of having sex once maybe twice a month-We're back in honeymoon form of 2x three or four times a week. I find the best results when its taken truly on an empty stomach, as in no food for 3-5 hours and an hour or two after light aerobics. Took it once while having an aspirin in my system and it worked well-but produced a very rapid heartbeat in me. So give it a try if you've thought about it. 

It amazes me, and my partner 

For years I have been able to achieve, but not maintain, an erection. 25 mg dose of Viagra is the answer for me. Most intense erections I have had since my teenage years. (I'm 44 now.) 

Fortunately have not experienced many of the side effects. I have minor nasal stuffiness, and a 'flushing' effect that lasts about ten minutes. This is when I know the medication has 'kicked in'. No heartburn or any visusal effects.

It amazes me, and my partner, just to see the results. I am very pleased with Viagra.

15 on a scale from 1 to 10

Me: 44, frequent problems with ED, often times I only get half hard, and often cant maintain it for more than a few minutes. Without stimulation its gone in about 30 seconds.

Took a 50 mg tab, engaged in sexual activities about 40 minutes later. Good solid erection, maintained rigidity for entire episode (about 30 minutes til orgasm) without stimulation maintained rigidity for about 3 minutes and then only began subsiding slightly. After ejaculation I stayed hard for about 2 minutes, then subsided slowly. Then did it all over again about an hour later with same results.

Had a very strong morning woody that stayed long after I awoke. Felt like a teen again. 

No headache but nasal cavities became congested within 15 minutes of ingestion. Used a saline spray and I was fine.

On a scale of 1 to 10 I would give Viagra a 15. I am so pleased. 

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Positives outweighing the negatives by far 

I am a 43 year old male who has suffered from ED in the past. I used Viagra for the first time recently and I must say that I (and she as well!) was quite impressed. Here is my experience and thoughts:

I decided to try a 50mg dosage (100 mg split), which I took about an hour after dinner (I had not eaten all day since breakfast). About a half hour after I took it and also before we could start getting intimate (had to get the kids to bed!), I started feeling a little flush in the face, a slight headache (even though I took 2 Advil a couple hours earlier in anticipation of getting a headache) and I also noticed that blue colors were enhanced. I did extensive research on the possible side affects, so none of this surprised me nor was I overly bothered them.

Once we began being intimate, I had no problems at all getting and keeping a very healthy erection, of which the likes she nor I have not seen in quite some time. We enjoyed the benefits of Viagra for a solid 3+ hours! As time past, I did not notice the side affects nearly as much as I did just a half hour or so after taking it, but my erection kept going strong. But, that could have been because I was busy doing and thinking of other things!!??  :-) Someone mentioned sensitivity earlier in this NG...I felt as sensitive as I usually do. My orgasm, when it finally came (I held back a few times purposely), was very intense as is pretty normal when I had not had sex in a while. Much to my surprise, I was even able to get and maintain an erection the next morning for quite a while, although it was not quite as easy as it had been the night before. For the rest of the day after taking it, I did experience just a small bit of indigestion and a very mild headache, but the day after that I felt fine.

All in all, it was a very positive experience, with the positives outweighing net negatives by far, and I am looking forward to the next time!

A truly remarkable drug

Last week I had my first Viagra experience. I am a 49 year old male who, for the last 5 or so years, has had trouble maintaining an erection. I am in excellent health with no problems. I obtained my prescription for 100mg but choose to start at 50mg. Around 30 minutes after I noticed a flush feeling in my face and some very slight congestion. No headache or blue tinge experience. Let me tell you, this stuff works. At least for me I had no trouble getting or maintaining my erection. The difference was so dramatic that I was truly astounded. I have not been able to have sex like that for many years consequently I am very happy this aspect of my life has returned. I have used it four times since, all with similar effects. I notice the onset faster on an empty stomach and I have not tried it with alcohol. My dosage has remained at 50mg seeing that this dosage has been so successful. The other effect I have noticed is that for the first time since I was in my early twenties, I can have sex twice in one night. Viagra is truly a remarkable drug.

Like a light switch turned on

I went to see my urologist a few weeks back to finally take care of this "problem" that I have been experiencing with non-existent and VERY temporary erections. I had been having some problems with that for a few years at least, but having been married at the time, I had
the ability to work around it sometimes and the pressure to do something was off. Now that I am separated, the problem has become critical! Trying to make love to a woman with this "thing" in the front of my mind 24 by 7 is a recipe for disaster. Well, after the last failed attempt, I decided enough is enough. So, off to the doctor I go, get the full spectrum of tests and discover that nothing is wrong with me test-wise. The nurse feels that my blood workup and the hormone results were all perfectly normal for me. My urologist agreed and felt I should try Viagra as an experiment to make sure that the plumbing was working as it should be (my interpretation). Well.....

IT WAS LIKE A LIGHT SWITCH GOT THROWN TO THE ON POSITION!!!!

After taking it the first time on an empty stomach and with a glass of fresh grapefruit juice as a chaser (thanks guys!), it went to work within 15 minutes! I lasted the first time a good 2.5 to 3 hours! Unbelievable and no side effects at all! Okay. So I thought that maybe this was an anomaly. Next night, tried again with the same process and, lo and behold, about 15 minutes
later, baa daa bing! Another 2 to 3 hours worth of good, hard sex. I really thought that I had died and gone to heaven! Well, the next time went very well WITHOUT the Viagra assist! Maybe residue?

I did notice that having an orgasm during the initial 1 to 2 hours was not as easy as I thought, so I just took it nice and easy and enjoyed the good feelings that it produced. The next time we did it
(same night) went like an explosion! Not sure if the Viagra held back the orgasmic response or not, but it sure felt that way. However, this is NOT a complaint!

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What a Difference

I'm 49 and I take Viagra. However, I do not have "erectile dysfunction" as defined by the Viagra website quiz. I never had trouble penetrating an excited woman, but I started to notice that sometimes "it" just wasn't as big and hard as "it" used to be. At the recommendation of some friends, I talked to my physician and tried Viagra.

What a difference! It now gets as hard as when I was 20 years old...and that is hard! Even young women are impressed (I don't tell them I'm on vitamin V). I take a very small dose (approx 12-13 mg...1/8 of a 100 mg pill) when I want to be superhard. The shit is unbelievable and I can see why some guys have keeled over dead of a heart attack after taking V and then meeting up with a women 30 years younger than they. Sometimes I end up coming twice in one session. Even the next morning, some of the Viagra is still in my system and I can put that to use.

Bear in mind, all it does is make the erection harder and last longer if you desire. It does not turn you on. If you are with someone you do not find attractive or just don't like, you won't get an erection. At least I don't.

Anyway, since most of the gang appears to be under 40, you probably don't need it yet (actually *I* don't need it). Rest assured, though, that hitting that wall will not be a problem.

Took a bit too much

Oooooooh baby! These are the bomb, folks. The first night I tried 50mg (as prescribed) and it was great. No problems. Worked like a *charm*. The next morning, I was able to have a roll with no Viagra - guess I had some residual effects. Later that day I took another half and had another great time. The last day (this morning) I decided to try a whole pill (100mg). That was a mistake. My dick might have been a tiny bit harder, but it made me take FOREVER to come. I mean, I was worn right out before I was even *close*. Picture lying on the bed, the lady got her O long ago, and I'm too shagged to shag, so I'm on my back beside her whacking off trying to finish off. When I finally went off it was fierce! 

Viagra is a life-saver

I have no problem getting an erection, but had problems maintaining one. I have used Viagra for about 6 months, starting with 50 mg, but reducing this to 25 mg. My experience are as follows (for all those interested to know):

1. 50 mg gives me a sponstaneous erection (even without stimulation) after about 45 - 60 minutes. 25 mg does not give such a reaction. 25 mg is enough to give me a very hard erection, with no problems maintaining it during sex. Previously, I can only maintain my erection for about 10 minutes or so, and
my penis would start to soften even with stimulation.

2. I am 45 years old, and weight about 175 lbs. I am healthy otherwise. Viagra has changed my sex life completely. It has made me feel young once again, and having a rock hard erection is no more a problem. I have 2 women in my life and both are very pleased with what is happening. I did not tell them I was taking Viagra.

3. I strongly suggest those who has problems maintaining an erection to start of with 25 mg Viagra. It is enough. For some strange reason, Viagra seems to have somewhat 'cured' my problem. Occasionally, even without Viagra, I was able to have a rock hard erection and maintain it for a long time during sex, to ejaculation. Nowadays, I do not have to take Viagra often. I guarantee that I do not have a psychological problem, and my problem is strictly due to age factors.

4. The only problem I have is that my blood pressure seems to have increased from 135/88 to about 145/95 since taking Viagra. There has been some comments about this in this newsgroups, and I would like to confirm that it is true. It is however, a small drawback to the big advantages Viagra gives to boost one's sex life.

Suffice to say, Viagra is a life-saver. I am enjoying sex again, and I can even fuck twice a day if I want to!

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Headaches the next day

I am a 46-yr old guy and are on hypertension medication (Renitec 10-mg a day) as well as on Propecia. I can get erections, but have problems maintaining it long enough for intercourse. Usually, the erection subsides after about 10 - 15 minutes of fucking. I have tried Viagra at different doses, and find that it is extremely effective in maintaining erections for as long as I want. But I have a problem with headaches the following day. I started off with 25 mg, and have reduced it down to 12.5 mg (roughly - I split the 100 mg pill to 8) and find that with this reduced dose, I can still have a rock hard erection as well as a greatly reduced headache. My experience tells me that Viagra is actually a very potent drug and it may not be necessary to take more than 12 mg for some candidates with similar case history as mine. Viagra is certainly the greatest thing that ever happened to me. I can make love 3 x a week, and keep both wife & girlfriend happy. By the way, I am 5' 10" and weight 170 lb. Hope this helps some people who have yet to start on Viagra and have difficulties maintaining erections.

Stomach upset

I took the first one just before dinner Friday night at 7:30 and after dinner played with my wife. by 8:15 I had a raging hard-on easier then I've ever experienced in the last 10 years. The sensitivity was greater and there was no pain or other sensation that lead me to believe I was using medicine. I came quicker then I have in years and the erection diminished naturally after that. Within the next half hour of more playing, I was hard again. This is a miracle to me. The effects lasted about 3 hours with me achieving and maintaining an erection when I needed to as I expected a normal person would. Knowing that I have physical impotence and that this is not a normal reaction for me, I was very pleased. The downside was that I got sick to my stomach after each orgasm. I had a slight headache and diarrhea the next day. These are documented side effects of the drug. Sunday I used it again but this time on an empty stomach between meals. My stomach upset was gone but I did experience heartburn all Sunday night. The penis effects were about the same.

Kept me rock hard forever

This is a good time to mention Viagra. While I definitely have no problem for which I need this drug, I was curious so I gave it a try. I found that on me, it got me rock hard AND KEPT ME ROCK HARD FOR WHAT SEEMED LIKE FOREVER. I must also say that it is as much for the woman as it is for the guy. My girl was more passionate than I have ever experienced in my life. Even a bar girl likes a rock hard dick for a couple of hours. She was scratching my back like an mad cat just before she came....

Since this was my last day here, I decided to pop the other half of my Viagra pill. This was some hot night!!!! We fucked for several hours that night and she was an absolute animal in bed. I didn't go to bed until 6:00 am with all the sex that was going on. She was also the second girl to scratch my back, prompting me to wonder if it was out of ecstasy or maybe because I was just too much. I asked her afterwards and she made it clear that it meant "I like, more more". I would say that if you are 50, Viagra will probably make you perform like a 20 year old in bed. If you are 30, Viagra will make you into the stud of the millennium. The only thing was that while I was making her come about a dozen times in several hours, my dick was becoming numb with use. She had had enough at this point, so I decided to give her my load and I became Mt. St. Helens. Yes, Thailand is good. 

Enhanced quality of sex life

I have been using Viagra for about 6 months and am very happy with it. I never felt myself "impotent" before, but after reading all good testimonies about Viagra, I just wanted to know if it was true. I gave a look at safety information, contra-indications and secondary effects and then I made myself a prescription! I ordered on a UK web site a pack of 100 mg pills at 12 USD each without prescription. I quickly tried the 50 mg recommended dose and was delighted immediately. Erection became quicker and bigger and the best of all remained long, long.... time . Moreover, ejaculation was pushed much later and easier to control. Maybe the best feature!

I finally though I had not only recovered the young guy shape I had at 20 but I had enhanced seriously the quality of his sex life. 

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Slow orgasm

Just tried Viagra for the first time to prolong erection. It worked surprisingly well however after orgasm when erection returned a second orgasm was very slow in coming (about the time I might get a second erection anyway with out Viagra).

I have concluded Viagra is only useful for erection. (for which it is advertised) Orgasm is a whole other story which might make Viagra not all it is cracked up to be for some.

First time gives wife orgasm via intercourse

To be short, Viagra is nothing but a miracle. Within a half hour of taking half of a 100mg tablet, erections are incredibly solid and they do not fade. In my earlier post I had mentioned that initial ejaculation after vaginal penetration would occur after 30 seconds to a minute -- this STILL happens. BUT, the second penetration (after a half hour's rest, of course) I lasted longer than my wife could - she couldn't go on! I did not ejaculate a second time that night, but if we would have persisted, I am sure that I would have. That isn't the point, though - for the first time IN MY LIFE I brought my wife to orgasm via intercourse - no manual stimulation. THREE TIMES IN ONE SESSION. And a fourth WITH manual for those of you keeping score at home. 

A minor review - I am 26, and I had problems maintaining an erection, except for masturbation, or so I thought. Until taking Viagra, I don't think I have truly HAD an erection. I ordered Viagra online, mostly out of embarrassment, unfortunately. I wish it could have been different, because online was quite expensive. on the plus side, I have 3 refills - does anyone know if I can get that "prescription" transferred to a local pharmacy? 

Also, for people who want to know (or are doubting because of some side effects), I have a couple reactions. One, is flushing, listed at 10% from a sampling of 734 patients, according to Pfizer's clinical information sheet. My face turns BRIGHT RED about 15 minutes or so after taking the pill. That only lasts for about 5-10 minutes. I also get really stopped up - really hard to breathe. That's listed at about 4%. The past two times I have taken it, after 24 hours, I get some pretty severe diarrhea - only one round, as it were. Not really sure if that's related to the Campbell's Chunky Clam Chowder I eat all the time though! That's 3%. A little dizziness after sex, but hey, who doesn't do THAT? 2%. - Joe 

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